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The crash that ended the life of one pilot
10/02/06 at 6:38pm
 
What really happened that day the show ended and a pilot lost their life? Which pilot died was it Davy Jones the lead pilot or another person? At the end of Natural Born there was something on a stunt guy who had died. How many people died so we could watch our favorite show?
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Reply #1 - 10/03/06 at 12:09am
 
O.K., don't quote me on it; giving my lack of accuracy about the Santini Air chopper in the other thread, but...

IIRC, it was stuntman Reid Rondell who died in the crash of a black Huey while filming a scene. I think he was a passenger, though.

Quick check of IMDB:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0740009/

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Reply #2 - 10/03/06 at 4:23am
 
AROUND THE NATION;
'Airwolf' Stunt Man Killed in Copter Crash

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Published: January 20, 1985

The coroner's office said today that a stunt man killed in a helicopter crash in the filming of the television series ''Airwolf'' died of burns.

The victim, Reid Rondell, 22 years old, was pronounced dead at the crash site Friday 35 miles north of Los Angeles.

The helicopter burst into flames before Mr. Rondell could be pulled from the wreck, and an autopsy was performed to determine whether he died of injuries from the crash or from the fire. Scott Meher, 46, the helicopter pilot survived the crash.

Mr. Rondell was the double for Jan- Michael Vincent in the action-adventure series that also stars Ernest Borgnine.

The Bell 205 helicopter was performing what stunt men described as a routine manuever, chasing another helicopter, when it smashed into the side of a hill. The helicopter was not one of the three futuristic helicopters that are a centerpiece of the show.

Mr. Vincent and Mr. Borgnine were filming at another location at the time.

I just found this, and you were right. I thought it was a pilot who died and it was a well known stunt man. I just found out Davy Jones died of lung cancer in 1997. It's so sad this happened.
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Reply #3 - 10/03/06 at 10:11am
 
O.k., I was just going to post that very same article for you. IIRC, Reid was the youngest of the Rondell family of stuntmen. I *think* his father and brother are/were stuntmen as well.

Doesn't seem to be a very accurate news story either. What do you suppose are the other two futuristic helicopters centerpieced on the show?

I'd guess Redwolf and HX-1, but one episode appearances don't qualify as "centerpieces", do they?


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Reply #4 - 10/03/06 at 1:49pm
 
Zebra Leader wrote on 10/03/06 at 10:11am:
Doesn't seem to be a very accurate news story either. What do you suppose are the other two futuristic helicopters centerpieced on the show?

I'd guess Redwolf and HX-1, but one episode appearances don't qualify as "centerpieces", do they?



hey Dennis, was thinking the same there when i was reading that article.  Maybe you are right with Redwolf and HX-1.  But then again could be the santini air and ark angles chopper.. MMMMmmm  Huh


Many tradgic endings to the airwolf life isn't there.  Almost makes me feel guilty for being a fan off it.  

I really wish they had just left the original lady for a showcase along with the santini air.  But as i said in the other thread. Maybe it just wasn't  praticle funding wise.

Interesting articles though.  Thanks guys.

Does anybody else have info or articles on anything like this???
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Reply #5 - 10/03/06 at 1:56pm
 
That's what I was trying to figure out too. The Bell 205 is a Huey, but they use a Huey again in "Birds Of Paradise" season 3. So if that didn't kill the show right away what did? What possessed them to sell the show to Canada and sell the flying model to Germany? I was just a wee little thing when this all went down. All I knew was that my show wasn't the same anymore. Season 4 was so bad I hated it and still do! In the meen time I'm going to look at my Airwolf vids. from season 2 and try to get a N# of a Huey that doesn't show anything that would be the one that wrecked.
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Reply #6 - 10/03/06 at 2:05pm
 
Nice one Wendigo.  You make some good points there.  What was the real reason for stop the filming off it.  I remember it went very bad once Mr Vincent and Mr Borgnine had left.  To be honest i never watched many after that, or i did but can't remeber because i think it lost some of the quality.

Maybe the producers new that they were loosing the audiance due to this and called it a day.  But again, why sell to canada and the chopper to Germany, no offence to Germany???

To me there is still many unsolved answers, maybe we'll never get to the bottom off but i sure am going to give it a try with hopefully the help off you guys.  

I won't have much time in the next few nights but when i can i will spend along time scanning the net to see if i can find a lead to what really went on.

Becoming an interesting discussion now me thinks this is.

The more the better to solve this.

Wendigo.  Unlike you, i don't have season 2 yet, waiting untill december the 26th for it to be realised on DVD, many thanks for your effort and support.  I am going to watch some season one in a bit.
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Reply #7 - 10/03/06 at 5:24pm
 
I got it off of E-bay, it's not the greatest quality but hey it works. I think I've got it figured out, I think it's "Natural Born" that  featured two Hueys a.k.a. Bell 205. At the end if it says in loving memory of stunt man Reid Rondell. There is a black nosed on white background with red and brown stripes Huey. I think it's that one. I couldn't even see the numbers clear, I couldn't tell for sure because the N # is black in the brown stripe very hard to see at all to say the least. .
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Reply #8 - 10/04/06 at 1:39pm
 
Nice work Wendigo,  Once i have more time i will do some investigating myself.

I looked on Ebay and was tempted myself.  If it wasn't for the new release in december of season 2 i probab;y would have gone for ebay.  but i think it will be worth the wait. Plus i can watch it ober christmas.

Does anybody else have any more info on this subject on what went on with the show ending and also the great game off spot which chopper / plane was used in what movie / show???


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Reply #9 - 10/04/06 at 3:42pm
 
I'm still going to buy the new set in Dec. They had no idea when they where going to release it two years ago and I'm impatient. So I bought the DVD set off of e-bay. Good luck into the search of what killed the show. I was always told a pilot died and that ended the show. Now I find years latter that was incorrect. Now I really want to know the real reason.
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Reply #10 - 10/09/06 at 9:26am
 
The accuracy of the news report can probably be put down an ignorance of the show's details on the part of the reporter.  I imagine that Universal commented that none of the three regular choppers (Airwolf, SA206 and FIRM 206LR) were involved, but that the reporter, who probably knew little more than that the show featured high-tech helicopters, put the two things together in the write-up.

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Reply #11 - 10/09/06 at 10:06am
 
Fair Owl,
I checked out your website and may I say AWESOME! I love the music you put together. Half Bassed or not it's sill sounded great! I like your paint jobs, the Santini one is the best. I think you may be on to something with the reporter may not of known. However this still doesn't anwser the reason the show ended.
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Reply #12 - 10/10/06 at 7:23am
 
Cheers Wendigo!

Re deaths, I'm not aware of anyone else dying on Airwolf.  Reid Rondell died in series 2, series 3 followed, after which cast and crewe were changed and the Canadian-built series 4 was shot (without the flying Airwolf).

Airwolf ended when they had enough shows to syndicate (? is that the right word? ) all four seasons together.  I don't think there was anything more sinister to Airwolf's demise (apart from ratings).

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Reply #13 - 10/10/06 at 1:46pm
 
Hi Owen, I agree with Wendy, the Santini civilian Airwolf is really cool.

The Stolen by the Soviets paint scheme, however, gave me a bit of the "chills"! It kind of reminds me of the movie (? sequel- I forget the name?) with the alternate timeline were the nazis (small "n" intentional) get the F-117.

Nice work there!


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Reply #14 - 10/10/06 at 6:14pm
 
Is there any reports on what was the real reason the show ended? I think you maybe right though Fair Owl.
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Reply #15 - 01/07/07 at 2:31pm
 
Wendigo wrote on 10/10/06 at 6:14pm:
Is there any reports on what was the real reason the show ended? I think you maybe right though Fair Owl.


There were actually alot of rumors why CBS didnt pick up Airwolf for another season ranging from budget cuts to the show not being as popular as it once was and there are several rumors that state that the show was cancelled due to Jans abuse of drugs and drinking. Showing up drunk on the set , forgetting lines ect. Thats the bad thing about rumors they are easy to start and can be deadly to a show or character. Maybe one day we will find the actual reason why CBS didnt want to do a 4th season.
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Reply #16 - 01/07/07 at 8:34pm
 
I just miss the good ole Airwolf. I hate the fact "they" the people running the budgeting of the show destroyed my show and turned it to dog pooh. They sold off the pretty flying model, got rid of the whole cast and shot it on cheap video.  The first 3 years were awesome why did they ruin it? I understand Jan had problems from day one on the set and they wanted him off the show. Why couldn't they wait just one more year? That I will never understand. I was the super disappointed kid when I found my favorite show destroyed. I'll never forget that.  Cry
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Reply #17 - 02/05/07 at 11:41am
 
I don't know what crashed or who died. I do know that the origal Bell 222 Airwolf crashed in a storm in 1994 killing the 3 people on board. It was converted to an air ambulance by a german company. A sad ending to a Hollywood star.
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Reply #18 - 12/28/09 at 12:26am
 
This is just from my memory but from what I understand neither the producers, CBS, or the studio ever sold the flying Airwolf helicopter.

They couldn't have sold it because they never owned it to begin with.

It, like all of the helicopters used in the show was actually owned by a company called Jetcopters INC.  It was only on lease to the show and when the show was sold by CBS at the end of season 3 the contract with Jetcopter's was terminated requiring the studio to return the helicopters to Jetcopter.

Like all businesses, Jetcopters couldn't afford to have the very expensive Bell 222 just sitting around costing a lot of overhead so they did the only thing they could do.  They stripped off all of the Airwolf "add-ons" and put it back into use as a light utility helicopter.

They probably didn't realize at the time that the helicopter would become so famous.  Remeber that the show was starting to drop in the ratings.

When Jetcopters went out of business they liquidated their fleet as often happens, and the former Airwolf was sold.

Just look at the closing credits of seasons 1-3 to see the Jetcopters mention.
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Reply #19 - 05/24/10 at 4:47pm
 
FYI - Jetcopters is STILL in business in Van Nuys...I was just there this weekend. They have been around for about 30 years or so.

My understanding is low ratings and difficulty with Jan Michael Vincent's addictions led to the cancellation of the show. It was picked up for an additional year to help with syndication.
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Reply #20 - 05/25/10 at 1:59am
 
KC,I already knew that they were still in business before you've even went there, by using google earth and looking straight down at them a few months back.
They also have a website.. Wink

http://jetcopters.com/
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